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Rasnita Kinu M47 Classic (ex. prototip Che) - impresii in utilizare

Eu ma uit zilnic la paharul cu filet si nu m-am gandit niciodata ca e ceva prost in proiectare sau executie.

Am inteles ca varianta intiala cu elastic nu era ideala dar nici "solutia" cu magneti nu pare sa fie viabila pe termen lung.
 
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(15-03-2018, 12:39)dev Wrote: Eu ma uit zilnic la paharul cu filet si nu m-am gandit niciodata ca e ceva prost in proiectare sau executie.

Am inteles ca varianta intiala cu elastic nu era ideala dar nici "solutia" cu magneti nu pare sa fie viabila pe termen lung.


Faptul că e mai plăcut în utilizare cel cu magnet nu înseamnă că versiunea cu filet este proastă sau că nu vor fi oameni care ar fi preferat altceva.
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Astept sa imi pice varianta cu "elastic" ca sa descopar si eu de ce nu e ideala... doar ca nu vrea, merge si pace :)
 
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(15-03-2018, 12:45)renatoa Wrote: Astept sa imi pice varianta cu "elastic" ca sa descopar si eu de ce nu e ideala... doar ca nu vrea, merge si pace Smile

La a mea se rupe periodic elasticul ala, trebuie sa cer de la fabrica rezerve pe urmatorii 10 ani  :D
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Eu am probleme cu retentia paharului la varianta cu magneti.
Sistemul de magneti obtureaza curgerea din pahar in sita, creand o bordura care opreste cafeaua.
Unghiul de imbinare dintre fundul paharului si peretii verticali, fiind unul ascutit, favorizeaza din nou depunerea si retentia cafelei, chiar daca lovesc paharul de masa de cauciuc cu putere, tot raman 0,4 grame aprox lipite de zona dintre fund si peretii verticali.

Posibile solutii identificate de mine:
1. Interiorul paharului sa nu respecte neaparat forma exterioara de con ci sa aiba zona de imbinare dintre fundul paharului si peretii verticali "umpluta" in asa fel incat sa se creeze efectul de "tobogan".
2. Sistemul de magneti sa fie "ingropat" in peretii laterali in asa fel incat curgerea dinspre fund inspre iesire sa fie una lina, fara borduri si obstacole.
3. O solutie pentru cele de mai sus ar fi ingrosarea peretilor paharului, posibil micsorarea capacitatii paharului si realizarea unei forme interioare asemanatoare unui con inversat, cu baza ingusta jos si cea larga sus. - Asta la interior.
La exterior poate ramane aceeasi forma conica cu baza mare jos pt stabilitate. Eventual se poate mari putin tot paharul.

Revin si cu poze/dovezi/schite daca e necesar.
Macap MC42 Stepless, Kinu M47, Magica, VST 18, IMS Competizione 22.
 
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Cu toate ca eu am modelul la care paharul este cu filet, la postarea 961 am mentionat acest posibil neajuns.
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Confirm tot ce a spus @traumen

Una dintre acele doua soluții ar rezolva problema.
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(22-03-2018, 19:07)traumen Wrote: tot raman 0,4 grame aprox lipite de zona dintre fund si peretii verticali.


Eu lovesc cu tamperul în peretele lateral, apoi în inelul de cauciuc de pe fundul paharului (cât paharul e cu capul în jos, evident) și nu rămân decât câteva particule de cafea în pahar.
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@rdumitrescu nu ai rasnita electrica?
Utilizezi pe Mina dar cu un Kinu?
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(23-03-2018, 10:35)MyR Wrote: Utilizezi pe Mina dar cu un Kinu?

Momentan da.
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Buna si solutia de ciocanit cu tamperul, doar ca in mod normal nu ar trebui sa facem asa ceva si e loc de imbunatatiri.
Eu sunt nevoit sa dau cu pensula, indiferent cat ciocanesc sau scutur paharul. Altfel ramane cafea care se va oxida.
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În afară de un pahar din inox cu fundul ca o semisferă, nu-mi dau seama cum ar putea să fie necesar să nu bați în el pentru a dizloca ce cafea rămâne lipită.

Mie-mi rămâne foarte puțină cafea. Suficient de puțină încât să nu mă intereseze.
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Pahar. imagine atasata.
Macap MC42 Stepless, Kinu M47, Magica, VST 18, IMS Competizione 22.
 
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Exact. Doar că nu cred că este ușor de produs un astfel de pahar.
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Vezi ca e ceva cu base64 in incercarea de atasare a imaginii. Sa nu fie virusata, adica vreo injectie SQL cu base64 mascata :)
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Atasat din nou.


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Nimic, se încarcă imagine in format base64. Cum încarci? Folosești Tapatalk? Ai încercat folosind "I" neagră?
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Vedeti acum in postul #1067

In Tapatalk se vedea bine.
Macap MC42 Stepless, Kinu M47, Magica, VST 18, IMS Competizione 22.
 
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Acum merge bine
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Am atasat si problemele paharului actual desenat in Paint :))


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Si eu am retentie in zona de jos a paharului. 
Poate daca introducem o garnitura rotunda de cauciuc acolo sa umple ea spatiul respectiv.
Daca are un diametru de 3-4mm cred ca e suficient.
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Eu folosesc o scobitoare pentru a scoate cafeaua din respectiva zona. Fac o miscare cerculara de jur imprejur si gata.
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Problema retentiei din acea zona a paharului o rezolv cu WDT toolul de la SunCoffee. Varful lui se potriveste perfect. Dupa o tura circulara cafeaua se desprinde si cade usor daca scuturi putin paharul. Si bineinteles folosesc pensula sa nu ramana cafea in pahar Smile .
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Oamenii fac progrese si remediaza din defecte, bravo, asa da:

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Imbunatatirea este facuta de Kinu sau de utilizator? In celalalt post era si versiunea cu 4 magneti si versiunea circulara. In versiunea circulara mi se pare ca se micsoreaza capacitatea paharului. Incap 18-20 de grame boabe daca le macini?
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Versiunea stoc cu magneti arata rau rau dupa doar cateva luni. 

#bringbackthethread
 
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Din poze nu îmi dau seama dacă mai are, sau nu, bordura în interior.

Personal îmi place mult aceasta versiune, cu mai multe megneti. Ar fi super sa aflam dacă este ceva oficial de la Kinu.
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(27-03-2018, 21:00)dev Wrote: Versiunea stoc cu magneti arata rau rau dupa doar cateva luni. 

#bringbackthethread


În ce sens? Eu am versiunea cu magneți din noiembrie, de dinainte să fie pus în vânzare. La mine, inelul de plastic are muchie de 90 de grade în interiorul paharului, nu este teșit, ca la toată lumea.

Nu arată mai rău acum decât arăta la început. Și, deși am un prag în interiorul paharului, nu am probleme să rămână cafea. Versiunile noi probabil sunt și mai ok.
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Pana sa vad poza de mai sus nu m-am gandit ca suportul in care stau magnetii e de plastic. Iar dupa poza de mai sus nu pare o solutie viabila pe termen lung.
 
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